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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:12 pm 
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There used to be a good guide on wegotserved but that site is gone.

Instead of monkeying with figuring out how to upgrade an unsupported OS, I'd pull your drives out, get a spare drive or two, and just start playing with it. Once you have it like you want. Put your old drives in, back them up, and put the data on to the new system.

Or just pickup another WHS box and run with it...


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Lion, thanx for the reminder about the 15 day deactivation, that may explain why several of us see this issue on some systems, and not others... I was on vacation shortly after 1803 loaded, had two different 1803 load dates for two systems, and had shutdown my mss....

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:21 am 
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If your going to run W10 with v1, you might want to consider blocking the automatic install of the System level "updates", especially if you are running older terminals that the manu. considers not compatible with w10.

Here are a few links on blocking updates:
https://www.tenforums.com/windows-updat ... -hide.html
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/hel ... g-in-windo

Here's another Microsoft w10 monkey wrench. The links below are for Microsoft's centralized list of previously manufactured system hardware that has been verified compatible with w10. If what your using is not on the list trust me, these new system "updates" become a real pain in the butt, hanging on install, cycle booting, black screening, etc.

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/win ... 0d5c738923


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on my desktop I have smb 1.0 automatic removal and smb1.0 client checked.
smb 1.0 server is unchecked.
I wish I could help you more but since I never had the issue I never had a need to research it.

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Ruben Rocha wrote:
on my desktop I have smb 1.0 automatic removal and smb1.0 client checked.
smb 1.0 server is unchecked.


Ruben, I would uncheck automatic removal so if for some reason the terminal is left unused for a while it doesn't un-install itself.

Isn't w10 just wonderful? ](*,)


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Like I said I never had a issue so I will leave the settings as is.
I have other win10 64 pro clients that have been up since win10 came out again no issues.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:23 pm 
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Fair enough Ruben,

Don't forget that unlike the prior w10 updates that you've had no problems with, if left on the SMB1 default setting both 1709 and the latest 1803 update is setup to automatically delete SMB1 after 15 days of inactivity.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/hel ... in-windows

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lioninstreet wrote:
Fair enough Ruben,

Don't forget that unlike the prior w10 updates that you've had no problems with, if left on the SMB1 default setting both 1709 and the latest 1803 update is setup to automatically delete SMB1 after 15 days of inactivity.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/hel ... in-windows

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This is good info.
Possibly why I have not been impacted yet!

Personally though I have been slowly migrating from mediasmart to a readynas anyway.

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I tried disabling smb v1 in my 2011 box but my clients would drop their connections to the server every few days and I would have to restart the server and then all the clients. This was the dashboard application and I could still log into my shares via file explorer but the connection didn't seem to perform that well. I rebuilt my server and left smb v1 enabled. I would love to get rid of it so any success stories are welcomed.


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I spent a little time today on this SMB (Server Message Block) subject and found a great explanation of what it is, what it does, and why it's so important here: http://www.cifs.com/

As some already know, the issue the earlier versions of it (specifically SMBv1 as used on w2k3/WHSv1) is related to the wannacry attacks of 2017.

Back then, Microsoft offered Security Update for Windows Server 2003 (KB4012598) a manually installed update for W2k3r2 x86) to combat the vulnerability. So if you install it on WHSv1, your still running SMBv1. But you will be protected better than having an open exposed OS,

At the root of the issue is the SMB v1 file sharing exposure that is apparently also present in SMB v2 and specifically also on v2.1 (used on w2k8r2, WHS2011, etc.), this as noted in Microsoft Critical Security Bulletin MS17-010 https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/securi ... 7/ms17-010

I'm not too sharp on all this. But to follow with as much SMB v1 security as is available you should also check the MSS.net thread found here viewtopic.php?f=1&t=14601&p=105053&hilit=wannacry#p105053 and install the entire wannacry update package. It contains all the specific w2k3r2 x86 security updates that Microsoft introduced so you can update an existing install manually.

On the horizon is a way to update SMBv1 to SMB 3.1.1, the most secure SMB management as of this post. It is a third party patch specifically for the legacy Microsoft OS (W2k, XP, w2k3, etc.) and is being developed by Visuality Systems. You can find out more about it here: https://www.visualitynq.com/articles/55-upgrade-to-smb3


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