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If you just need the link to the off-line updater that installs all the WHSv1 updates it is below:

LINKY: http://www.mediafire.com/folder/m2r4t1jsyrzam/wsusou_WHS

(To update Vail, go here http://www.mediasmartserver.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=15052)

If you need detail how to save all the WHSv1 & MSS updates off line for future use, this entire post is about a 5 minute read. Go get some coffee. But to reduce the pain a bit, I summarized it just below.

First a big THANK YOU for their plethora of posts that I used for information, reference, and arrow pointing that helped prepare me to tackle this task: Yakuza, Comp1962, Guardian, Diehard, Ruben Rocha on mediasmartserver.net & aker on wsusoffline.net.

Most familiar with this space would agree that WHS v1 was and still is a viable if not the preferred OS for a home server. But with it more or less dead, buried, and flowers growing on the grave, others would call it "obsolete." I happen for the most part to disagree with the latter opinion.

But if you've ever done a bare metal install or a recovery, you may have noticed that MS has been steadily trimming the number of pushed w2k3 and WHSv1 updates available from Windows Updates. What was a total of over 236 updates in the middle of 2017 is now (12/2018) sadly only about 36.

For those like me who still prefer WHSv1 over any other choice out there, this thread outlines the process of fully updating it without Windows Update and even off-line should you need to. This means that without an internet connection or pushed updates from WU or HP, v1 can still be fully updated and remain fully functional.

Covered here is the setup and use of a custom build of WSUS Off-Line Updater specifically tailored for WHSv1. This tool is fully self contained and will update the install of a pre-installed v1 OS without the need for an internet connection. It first installs w2k3r2 Service Pack 2, then all the critical updates, all the security updates, and 2017 wannacry updates & the 2019 bluekeep updates. For the WHSv1 overlay, it also installs any missing Power Packs, Convenience Rollups and missing updates.

Also outlined here is how to capture and install the HP console updates.

So now that MS & HP has completely left us out in the cold, you can still install, reload, and fully update your v1 home server OS.

It probably doesn't need to be said, but for those new to WHS, it and the HP media/interface updates have been considered "EOL" for something like 5 years now. WHSv1 "Quatro" has been dead since January 2013 and so has it's core OS server w2k3r2. Today, should you try to manually download updates for either from Microsoft's Update Catalog or even view updates information, you get no cooperation from Microsoft.

Not to mention, HP also ended support for its WHS media overlays long, long ago. As of this writing, updating the HP software from the Mediasmart console after a fresh install will still yield you a full update (if you start with disk v3.0). But the writing is on the wall. Only two of the three HP ver. 3.0 Server Patches are left on their support web site. (edit 2/21 All HP updates have been found by ozecho & links for them pasted into this thread post)

OFF-LINE UPDATING THE s2k3r2 OS AND WHS OVERLAY:

A few months ago I started finding and capturing the URL's for all the WHS updates, and tested several off-line updater programs to install them. None were successful. As it turns out it took a specially modified build of the program WSUS off-line (thanks again to aker, one of the WSUSOL forum admins for spending so much time on this), and testing both on virtual machines and hardware by the both of us to get it friendly, up to the task, & fully functional. This version of WSUS now contains all the Microsoft updates for two of the three OS levels (w2k3r2 & WHSv1) in the HP MSS. Everything has been conveniently dropped into an .iso file along with an auto installer. So no matter which WHS recovery disk you use (or even if you are using a Microsoft sourced WHS OS disk), you'll be fully updated with all the critical and security updates for the core OS, as well as a .NET framework 4.0, C++ and the WHS overlay already baked in.

Outlined below is how to fully update off-line, either headless or with an external VGA monitor.

WHS v1 OFF-LINE UPDATING (Pre-Preparation Notes):


1. If you have a debug board or VGA cable, you will need to temporarily plug in a USB keyboard and mouse to the server.
2. For headless installs, after the OS Reset / Recovery Disk and Software Installation disk has been installed as normal, simply RDP into the server to complete the update process with the update tool instead of updating using the home server console.
3. An alternative to RDP is a free server console add-in for WHSv1 from amicLabs called Advanced Administrator Console (v0.5.4). The AAC add-in will let you view the server desktop directly from your server console (and still happens to available free as of this writing (EDIT: its still there 9/19) here: http://www.home-server-addins.com/downl ... ued-addins). (EDIT2: 3/21 the site now 404's, but the download will still work using http://www.home-server-addins.com/downloads/discontinued-addins (EDIT3 1/23 download is now dead too...)

What follows are the off line update install steps for all three OS levels (w2k3r2, WHSv1, HP):

PHASE ONE - WHS v1 OFF-LINE UPDATING (Preparation):

Ideally, this preparation step should be done now, before all support has ended, primarily so you capture all the available HP updates for off line storage.

1. Verify your MSS has all the latest HP updates installed by checking for updates in the HP server console/Windows Home Server Settings/HP MediaSmart Server/HP update.
2. Once verified, RDP into the server desktop, go to C:\Program Files\Hewlett-Packard\HP MediaSmart Server\data\.updates\.applied. Here you will find all the HP updates that your MSS version will accept.
3. Copy these HP updates files to a USB stick and put them somewhere safe.
4. (EDIT 5/19 updating link): Next, go to :arrow: http://forums.wsusoffline.net/viewtopic ... 164#p27164 This will lead you to a mediafire link that will provide the WSUS program .iso with all the updates baked in. (EDIT 3/21, go direct to the mediafire page found at the top of this thread. The wsusoffline.net site is no longer maintained)
5. (EDIT 5/19): Download and install Pismo, an .iso mounting program that lets you view and copy the contents of an .iso. Once the program is installed, right click on the .iso, and select PFM Open. You can then copy the contents to whatever media is most convenient.

Easy Peazy. Now the real fun begins.

PHASE TWO - WHS v1 OFF-LINE UPDATING (Initial OS install & Client Setup):
(edited (1/23)

1. For an OS restore (data loss), pull ALL your server drives out if any are installed then install the HDD destination drive for the fresh OS install in the bottom WHS slot
2. For an OS recovery, all drives being used prior to the recovery must remain installed
3. Fully disconnect the client you are using to install the server OS with from the internet by removing the LAN cable. If the client has wireless internet access, go ahead and disable that too.
4. Fully remove the HP software and Windows connector software from the client (if installed)
5. Copy the HP Software Recovery Disk from a CD drive to your desktop
6. Disable all 3 firewalls (domain, public, private) in control panel/admin tools/ win firewall / firewall properties
7. Disable any antivirus and all three firewall properties found in Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Administrative Tools\Windows Firewall With Advanced Security\Windows Firewall Properties
8. Enable SMB1 if client using w10
9. Enable NET Framework 2.0 & 3.5 if using w10
10. Turn off the client computer
11. Connect a CAT5a LAN cable directly between the server and the client.
12. Restart the client in safe mode with networking (this is optional, but it is reported that difficult installs have worked by including this step
13. Put the server in revcovery mode.
14. From the client, open the contents of the HP Recovery disk and open the file WHSRecovery.exe to begin the factory restore or reset process.
15. If using a w7x64 client or newer, when the recovery ends, you will get a warning that the terminal cannot be setup. Just click past this.
16. From the client, remove the Recovery disk. Then, run the Software Installation Disk. Work thru the Software Installation setting up your user name, password, etc. Remain fully off line
17. Open the Server console. You will get notification that the server wants to check on-line for and install the HP updates, just click OK. Since you're off-line the check will fail. No worries, just click past this.

As an aside, my ex49x is setup to bypass the PXE paperclip install method in favor of the far easier USB method found here. (this is not needed on the ex47x or the ex48x). (viewtopic.php?f=25&t=14522)

PHASE THREE - WHS v1 OFF-LINE UPDATING (Installing the w2k3r2 & WHS updates):

1. Gain desktop access to the sever. If using Advanced Administrator Console, put the AAC .msi file onto a USB stick, transfer it to the ./software/addins share, and install the add in thru the console. Otherwise use RDP from the client.
2. Using either a burned DVD or a USB of the updates .iso made in Phase 1, create a folder on the server desktop and transfer the opened contents of the .iso onto the server. It's a few Gb of updates so be patient
3. Open the folder, find the application named UpdateInstaller.exe, and open the application
4. In the Updating Installation section, leave update C++ Runtime Libraries, Install .NET framework 4.x, Update Root Certificates, and Update Remote Desktop Client checked. You will not need to update Silverlight unless you are using the server to access the web (not recommended).
5. In the Control section, select automatic reboot and recall so the install will run without user intervention.
6. Regarding selecting Show Log File: Selecting this is not recommended as the install stops on every automatic reboot to display the log file. Only select this when using a VGA connection if you don't mind manually closing the log file after every restart. You will have to manually begin the update run for every restart. To view the log after running the install tool, see step 8.
7. Regarding Remote Desktop Access: When using RDP or AAC, you will lose desktop access at the first update reboot and will be unable to view the log anyhow. Don't worry about logging back in to desktop while the server is updating. Just let it continue thru the install process.
8. Viewing the Update Log File via RDP/AAC: If you don't have a VGA connection but want to view the log files after the install is complete, they are located at C:\Windows\wsusofflineupdate.log on the server.
9. Select start and the automatic update process will begin. The command line activity will show the install detail. For reference, if you happen to be updating a WHS v3.0 OS install disk and using a HDD, plan on a 3-4 hour update process, longer if your install disk is older.
10. The install process: Expect at least 6 auto reboots. The first updates to install are for WHS. They have to install one by one so you will see the restarts happening fairly frequently. Last to install will be a large w2k3 update. Once the server has settled in without rebooting for a while, RDP back into the desktop
11. Open the UpdateInstaller.exe application and run again just to verify all updates have been installed. I found after running the Automatic Reboot and Recall installs, I had to run the program twice manually to pick up a few remaining updates. For the final update checks, you don't need to select automatic reboot and recall and if you want, you can view the log file it will show you the update status
12. (Edit 7/22) Some users have stated PP3 & the two Update Rollups are not installing using the tool. However they can be manually installed. RDP into the server, open the desktop folder containing the update tool contents and go to w2k3/enu and open the folder. You will find all the updates in this folder including whs-kb944289-v1 (PP1), whs-kb956587-v1 (PP2), whs-kb968349-v1 (PP3), whs-kb979453-v1 (UR1), & whs-kb981089-v1 (UR2). To install them, simply click on each one in the order shown, restarting after each has completed the install.

OFF-LINE UPDATING s2k3r2 OS AND WHS OVERLAY - Changelog:

1. For some reason, the WSUS off line program errors on the install one w2k3 update, kb3033890. Until this error is fixed, it can be manually installed by going to this location in the WSUS program file you placed on the server desktop in step 2 above: .\w2k3\enu, finding windowsserver2003-kb3033890-x86-enu_<sha1>.exe, double clicking on it, and manually installing.
2. {Edit 11/18] Autoreboot issue fixed
3. {Edit 5/2019} Added KB4500331 to address Bluekeep vulnerability
4. Only support for an English version is currently available (Edit 9/19: Both the Global Language version is stable and working)
5. File hashes are not properly verifying yet. {Edit 12/19 added hashes for update file verification}
6. {Edit 12/19) Added support for the initial WHS version [build 1500.0] w/o HP overlay
7. This section will be updated as the WSUS/WHSv1 program matures

OFF-LINE UPDATING HP AUTHORED MEDIASMART UPDATES

(EDIT 3/21 All the HP updates have been located by @ozecho. links below I chronological order (download 'em while you can, the links don't work on wayback machine)

The last level of updates comes from HP. These HP updates are primarily media related, are also relatively easy to install, and include the HP client user interface updates.

As of this writing (11/18), you can still the find available to download the HP ver. 3.2 (Server Patch 2 v3.2.13.4990) & ver. 3.3 (Server Patch 3 v3.3.13.5433) on HP's support web under support software & drivers for the ex49x.

However, the large 150,236mb HP ver. 3.0 Server Patch 1 (v3.0.14.33083) has been pulled down. Why they pulled the primary patch down but left the smaller patches is anyone's guess. All I can say for sure is that based on an initial install of the HP v3.0 recovery disk, the primary v3.0 update (v3.0.6.31983, 304mb) is installed during a server recovery OS install. Incidentally, after you run the v3.0 Software Installation Disk, v3.0.6 will permit you to connect a 64 bit terminal even without Patch 1.

I have also noticed that some ex47x & ex48x install disks include the v3.0 along with Patch 1 (dated 11/09) and some only have v2.0 & 1.1 (dated 11/08 & 11/07) The HP patch 1.3.8 for the ex47x, and the HP patch 2.5 for the ex48x is also MIA for an external download from HP. But the ex47x recovery disk v1 will still currently update to 1.3.8 and ex48x recovery disk v2.0 will still currently update to 2.5 thru a console update download. (Edit 7/22) The HP update link built into the console's search function no longer lets you search the HP site for available updates. To complete the update, simply drop each HP update you're installing onto the server desktop and manually install each one in order.

The good news is (as mentioned earlier), after you install the HP updates, they are all stored on the server at C:\Program Files\Hewlett-Packard\HP MediaSmart Server\data\.updates\.applied. If you already have a fully updated working server, you're in luck. Just follow the pre-preparation instructions written above and you're in like Flynn. No downloads needed.

The update path seems to be 1.11, 1.36, 1.38, 2.11, 2.51, 2.51.5, 3.0, then the three 3.0 patches (update 3.2 & 3.2ja appear to be the same kb, I just installed 3.2). My understanding is you need to install each update on top of another, earliest to latest. For example, you can't go straight from 1.3 to 3.3, If anyone can add more clarification on this please chime in (edit 11/21 user homersapien found after installing the v1.x update to his ex47x, the v2.11 update wouldn't install but the 2.51 update would). So be sure to check in your server's add remove programs to see what version goes in with the base install before updating anything.

Also, if anyone on the forum has any of these other HP updates stored off-line please let me know so we can make them all available in a drop box.

Code:
v1.11     http://ftp.hp.com/pub/softlib/software10/COL22916/dv-60247-1/MS11319049ENGServerUpdate.exe
v1.36     http://ftp.hp.com/pub/softlib/software10/COL22922/dv-60259-3/MS13621622ServerUpdate.exe
v1.38     http://ftp.hp.com/pub/softlib/software10/COL25198/dv-64762-4/MS13825155ServerUpdate.exe
v2.11     http://ftp.hp.com/pub/softlib/software10/COL28432/dv-70551-1/MS211227366ServerPatch.exe
v2.51     http://ftp.hp.com/pub/softlib/software10/COL27654/dv-68834-3/MS251027311ServerUpdate.exe
v2.51.5   http://ftp.hp.com/pub/softlib/software11/COL32829/dv-81526-1/MSS251535297ServerUpdate.exe
v3.01     http://ftp.hp.com/pub/softlib/software10/COL30551/dv-75728-1/MSDV301433083ServerPatch.exe
v3.2      http://ftp.hp.com/pub/softlib/software11/COL32509/dv-80555-1/MSSDV32134990ServerUpdate.exe
v3.2JA    http://ftp.hp.com/pub/softlib/software11/COL33153/dv-82411-1/MSSDV32134990JAServerUpdate.exe
v3.3      http://ftp.hp.com/pub/softlib/software11/COL32831/dv-81528-1/MSSDV33135433ServerUpdate.exe


PHASE FOUR - COMPLETING AN OFF-LINE INSTALLATION OF THE HP UPDATES

Now that you've secured the HP updates specific to the install disks you have, the off line install method for them is described here in detail: (http://www.mediasmartserver.net/2010/03 ... datavault/ ).

A quick outline follows:
1. Locate the previously saved update file you are planning to install and move it to a software share on the server
2. Start the WHS console, navigate to settings/mediasmart server (or data vault) tab/HP update tab.
3. Click the "search" button.
4. Browse to the software share folder you stored the update file in. Click next and the server will retrieve and launch the installer.
5. Once the install is complete, the console will restart, the updated console will appear, and you are ready to continue the manual update process.
6. (Edit 7/22) The method shown using the console update method no longer works. The HP update link built into the console's search function no longer lets you search the HP site for available updates. To complete the update, simply drop each HP update you're installing onto the server desktop and manually install each one in order.

That's it, just be sure to re-enable your firewalls and antivirus software on your client (but leave SMB1 enabled using w10). You've now fully updated your WHS v1 OS off-line and you don't need cooperation from Microsoft updates or HP updates to do it anymore!

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Good document maybe it should be posted to the guides section.
I think a moderator needs to do that.

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WOW!!! :encore:
I can't say thank you enough.... I have copied and saved your text and downloaded all the files you have linked to.

I will try (at some point) a clean offline reload and enjoy being able to do so with your great information.

Thank you I will report back (when I find time to do this) with all results.

If this goes the way it should, you sir are AWESOME!!!!! :cheers: And Microsoft can go pound sand :lol:

I knew it could be done, but you have done it..... Wow!!!

To you and yours, Have a Awesome Holidays!!!!
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Gardian, My pleasure to give back something to you and such an awesome and helpful group of folks found here.

All the advice I've received and knowledge found on MSS.net has saved my bacon more than once. And a special thanks to Yakuza for leaving the forum live for so long after our little servers have been considered "obsolete".

As I noted in an edit of a comment I posted on another of your threads, if you did a recent OS install or recovery that might have only gotten the 36 or so updated MS is still pushing, you can use the same WSUS/WHSv1 off-line updater to check that you have all the updates available.

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lioninstreet wrote:
PHASE ONE - WHS v1 OFF-LINE UPDATING (Preparation):

4. Next, go to :arrow: http://forums.wsusoffline.net/viewtopic ... 164#p27164 This will lead you to a mediafire link that will provide the WSUS program .iso with all the updates baked in. Two .iso's are there. One is a global language, the other is the English version.
5. Download the iso and burn it to a CD or use Rufus to import to a USB. If you're not sure how to do that look here: https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-burn-an ... ve-2619270
5a Edit 5/19: Rufus no longer recognizes the .iso format the updates are on. I found it easier to install Pismo, an .iso mounting program that lets you view and copy the contents of an .iso. Once the program is installed, right click on the .iso, and select PFM Open. You can then copy the contents to whatever media is most convenient.

The WSUS off line program originally included the 32 bit wanna-cry updates baked in but has now been updated to include the 2019 RDP vulnerability patch (KB4500331). Also with respect to the update .iso's, the one labeled .glb is a global language, the other labeled .enu is the English version. Both are working version. EDIT 4/21: There's now only a single global version wsusoffline-w2k3_whs-glb_BETA
EDIT 5/21: Final download version posted wsusoffline-w2k3_whs-glb_2021-05-01

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WHSv1 off line updater has been updated again.

It now has the ability to download for off-line storage & installation all s2k3r2/WHSv1 updates, wider compatibility with the various install disks, and updates for both wannacry & bluekeep.

Changelog:
initial version: (all 236 w2k3r2 updates, all WHSv1 Powerpacks & post rollups, + 2017 wannacry updates)
2018-11-06: fixed autoreboot issue
2019-05-16: added KB4500331 (bluekeep)
2019-12-05: added hashes for download verification
2019-12-09: added support for the initial WHS version [build 1500.0]

http://www.mediafire.com/folder/m2r4t1j ... wsusou_WHS

Note that unlike the typical WSUS off line downloader that requires the user to download the updates before installing them, this .iso contains not only the off line installer, but the updates are already baked in.

So just open the .iso, run the installer on auto reboot, and your done.

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Some years ago (10+?) I obtained an EX485 which has given sterling service, apart from a power supply failure which was quickly fixed with the help of this forum. When lioninstreet first posted this method for offline recovery I quickly downloaded the files and instructions as well as doing all the preparation work for when it might be needed.

While not needing it for the Ex485, I recently acquired an EX490 which came without software CDs or hard drives. I found ISOs for the software CDs on line and armed with a new hard drive put the instructions to good use. I was using a Win 10 Pro 64 bit machine to run the process and it all went well.

However, I did have to handle the HP updates a little differently. From the EX485 I had the HP files for patches 2 and 3. The HP version 3 software cds for the EX485 included patch 1 but the version 3 ISOs I had for the EX490 did not so I was a bit concerned by the comment that HP had pulled the 150MB V3 Patch 1 file. Once the Microsoft updates using wsus were complete I put the EX490 online and it promptly downloaded and applied the V3 Patch 1 file from HP. Patches 2 and 3 soon followed and the files were the same as those I already had from the Ex485. Needless to say the V3 Patch 1 file has been put aside with the others in case needed in the future.

Thanks again for putting this together, it made the job so easy. Even after all this time, I still find this site of relevance.


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I was a bit concerned by the comment that HP had pulled the 150MB V3 Patch 1 file. Once the Microsoft updates using wsus were complete I put the EX490 online and it promptly downloaded and applied the V3 Patch 1 file from HP. Patches 2 and 3 soon followed and the files were the same as those I already had from the Ex485. Needless to say the V3 Patch 1 file has been put aside with the others in case needed in the future.

Thanks again for putting this together, it made the job so easy. Even after all this time, I still find this site of relevance.


Sounds like HP is still pushing all the v3 updates directly to the hardware (as opposed to leaving all three of them available for download from support). That's a nice gesture after all these years. Thanks for sharing how updating went smoothly for you and the kind word!

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Hi lioninstreet,
Your off-line library looks really encouraging. I am a whs v1 die-hard. Ran into some problems recently, did a recovery only to discover that my windows updater wasn't just broken, Microsoft has in fact turned off the tap. I had a 3.0 disk fortunately, but among other updates it leaves you at PP2. Your description suggests the loader includes all PPs, including PP3? Is that correct? If so, I will be be giving this a shot. I am close to building a replacement server, but I want to keep my whs v1 around for a few years yet. Thanks.


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Hi lioninstreet,
Your off-line library looks really encouraging. I am a whs v1 die-hard. Ran into some problems recently, did a recovery only to discover that my windows updater wasn't just broken, Microsoft has in fact turned off the tap. I had a 3.0 disk fortunately, but among other updates it leaves you at PP2. Your description suggests the loader includes all PPs, including PP3? Is that correct? If so, I will be be giving this a shot. I am close to building a replacement server, but I want to keep my whs v1 around for a few years yet. Thanks.


I'm aware that there can be big gaps in time between responses on an aging forum. So, after reviewing all this fantastic information and the links to the update script etc, I jumped in. I have to say this is a fantastic project. A year or two ago, at least you could re-install all the various updates through the usual ways. But as I discovered last week, there are no longer any Microsoft whs/w2003 updates available. The install script was invaluable, While I still remember the details, I wanted to document my experience:

- The emphasis was on an off-line restore. I'm not sure exactly the intention here. Is it because some folks have taken their systems offline, i.e. no Internet for security reasons? Or is it because being online might invoke update processes that interfere with the script? In any case, the one thing I did find problematic was trying to restore whs (option a, keeping my data) and execute the script per the instructions to be offline (connect a cable between client and whs server). For the 3.2 restore disk, I had all kinds of problems with finding my server. I went back to the 3.0 disk, and was able to install the core os, but still had problems getting it to find my server during the client software install. Eventually I went back to my normal "on-line" configuration and just disabled internet access to the client and server. In any case, now that Microsoft has turned off the update tap, does it really matter if one is connected to the Internet while performing the updates?
- Once I got through the restore, I ran the wsus script, following the phased instructions above. There seemed to be some redundant/conflicting instructions with regard to extracting the software from the .iso file. Basically for me, I downloaded the .iso, opened it with Pismo, copied the files to a usb drive, and then plugged it into the front port of my ex470 once I had done the core restore and had rdp'd into the Server
- Also, I guess the phased instructions considered many types of whs users. For me,, headless install with rdp would be the default approach for a MediaSmart Server owner.
- As suggested, I let the script run and reboot, peaking occassionally by rdping into the Server. It did require 2 or 3 separate runs to ensure all updates were applied. For the KB that causes an error, I installed that manually after the first run. That way, I knew right away when everything had been installed on subsequent runs, when there were no more install warnings.
- Now, one of the main reasons I was so excited about the wsus script, was because originally after the core restore, I was still missing the Power Pack 3 update, and of course, the Microsoft updater was no longer working. The wsus instructions imply that all power packs get installed but this seems not to be the case. After completing the above steps for the first time, I was disappointed, upon logging into the whs client app, to learn that I was still at PP2. As I read through the thread, it took me to the wsus site, where the link to the download can be found. There I discovered that lioninstreet had provided links to pp3, pp3 rollups 1 and 2 and search 4.0 etc updates. All these links are still active and so I was able to download and manually install all of those additional missing updates. LioninStreet: am I missing something or did those later updates somehow not find their way into the script?
- There was another problem. While using those wsusofflne links to pp3 rollup 1, I got a url link error. Totally bummed: I had PP3, and rollup 2 but not rollup 1. Fortunately upon examining the urls for PP1, I noticed a small typo near the middle of the PP1 link: v1-x86enu should instead be like the other links: v1-x86-enu. With that small change, the PP1 link worked.

To summarize, this is great and there is a ton of instructions to follow to ensure that when that day comes when you have to restore/reinstall, you will have all the updates and you won't be at the mercy of Microsoft or HP or whoever. While it is not a fully automated process, all the raw materials are there to get the job done.


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Looks like the v1 updater is up to well over 200 downloads. That's not bad considering the MSS hardware is nearly a teenager. Nice.

The updater was profiled to install all the s2k3 & fully update WHS v1 updates (including pp3 and the rollups) on top of a clean install no matter which v1 OS disk was used to install the base OS. With MS finally killing updates for s2k3 & WHSv1, it sounds like the time to get this project done was well spent.

Off Line Restore - The reference to updating the OS off-line does not mean you cant be on-line to use the tool, only that your not required to be. There's no iron clad reason to specifically stay off-line when using the updater. That said, I personally got the most trouble free install results when I worked thru the entire install process when off line (and I did at least several dozen of them while developing it with aker). As many do, initially I too ran into issues getting an install client to see my server. shutting down all three firewall controls in the OS, making sure that SMB1 on a w10 client is enabled, using a minimum of a cat5e cable, connecting the server direct to a client, finding the early v1 OS prefers to be installed with a XP client, all of these (and a few others) are common fixes for this issue that are well documented here. As I'm guessing you discovered, in this forum search is your friend.

Missing PP3? - That behavior is abnormal and you shouldn't have needed to go one by one to the archive links to download it or any of the rollups. That said, all the v1 updates are sequential. The tool should have detected that PP2 was installed and just put pp3 on top of it, restarted, and then installed the rollups. After you manually installed PP3, did you try using the tool to install the rollups or just install them manually as well? Again, what you experienced is not what I found since all the updates are pre-loaded into the wsus v1 update tool.

(Edit 7/22) If you find PP3 & the two Update Rollups are not installing using the tool they can be manually installed without trying to find them on the web. RDP into the server, open the desktop folder containing the update tool contents and go to w2k3/enu and open the folder. You will find all the updates in this folder including whs-kb944289-v1 (PP1), whs-kb956587-v1 (PP2), whs-kb968349-v1 (PP3), whs-kb979453-v1 (UR1), & whs-kb981089-v1 (UR2). To install them, simply click on each one in the order shown, restarting after each has completed the install.

As for troubleshooting the update install, without VGA, all you have for reference for what updates are installing and when they install is the wsus log file. But since you did experience something that's out of the ordinary, I'd post on the wsus v1 thread your experience just in case an update to the installer is required. Aker is quite responsive.

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lioninstreet wrote:
Looks like the v1 updater is up to well over 200 downloads. That's not bad considering the MSS hardware is nearly a teenager. Nice.
Yes, v1 lives on!

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The updater was profiled to install all the s2k3 & fully update WHS v1 updates (including pp3 and the rollups) on top of a clean install no matter which v1 OS disk was used to install the base OS. With MS finally killing updates for s2k3 & WHSv1, it sounds like the time to get this project done was well spent.
Absolutely a life saver! Thanks to you and Aker and others for all the hard work. So, because I have had more issues with my system, long story short, my recovery eventually turned into a reset (clean install). As such , I had another chance to try the updater. But the results were the same - after letting it run 3 times and seeing the message "nothing left to install" in the log, I was still sitting at PP2. So definitely something wrong there.

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Off Line Restore - The reference to updating the OS off-line does not mean you cant be on-line to use the tool, only that your not required to be. There's no iron clad reason to specifically stay off-line when using the updater. That said, I personally got the most trouble free install results when I worked thru the entire install process when off line (and I did at least several dozen of them while developing it with aker). As many do, initially I too ran into issues getting an install client to see my server. shutting down all three firewall controls in the OS, making sure that SMB1 on a w10 client is enabled, using a minimum of a cat5e cable, connecting the server direct to a client, finding the early v1 OS prefers to be installed with a XP client, all of these (and a few others) are common fixes for this issue that are well documented here. As I'm guessing you discovered, in this forum search is your friend.
Yeah, I have to say the instructions come off as suggesting that offline is somehow required. My experience is somewhat the opposite of yours. I will say that I have less problems with the reset than with the recovery. That said, I experience a minimum of issues when I just start the process with my environment connected as usual, all online etc. I have both W10 and W8.1 clients and my problems multiplied when I tried the offline, turn off the firewalls and AV method.

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Missing PP3? - That behavior is abnormal and you shouldn't have needed to go one by one to the archive links to download it or any of the rollups. That said, all the v1 updates are sequential. The tool should have detected that PP2 was installed and just put pp3 on top of it, restarted, and then installed the rollups. After you manually installed PP3, did you try using the tool to install the rollups or just install them manually as well? Again, what you experienced is not what I found since all the updates are pre-loaded into the wsus v1 update tool.
All in all I used the v1 updater 3 times: twice doing a recovery (once with a 3.2 install, once with a 3.0) and then once doing a reset (fresh install) with 3.2. As described above, always left at PP2. I manually installed PP3 and then the 2 rollups manually as well (which is how I discovered the url typo). I also installed Search 4.0 and hotfix that way. Maybe they were already installed? I didn't check them as Search wasn't really that important to me. Frankly, when I saw your post in wsus, I assumed that those were final adds to the script that never got added. It does beg the question, what else might not be installing? Again, PP3 was visible and important to me as I also use Media Center -- so I paid more attention to it.

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As for troubleshooting the update install, without VGA, all you have for reference for what updates are installing and when they install is the wsus log file. But since you did experience something that's out of the ordinary, I'd post on the wsus v1 thread your experience just in case an update to the installer is required. Aker is quite responsive.
I didn't see anything in the log file pointing to a PP3 issue. However I haven't gone through the log thoroughly. I'll post a note on the wsus site.


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I had another chance to try the updater. But the results were the same - after letting it run 3 times and seeing the message "nothing left to install" in the log, I was still sitting at PP2. So definitely something wrong there.
When the v1 update tool was being developed back a few years ago, the test installs (at least the ones I did) were on clients that used either xp or w7. With both of those OS now put out to pasture, I'll have to try a clean install using a w10 client.

Maybe that will help to duplicate your issue. But I think it's more related to the below since the update installer doesn't even become part of the equation until the OS is already living on server storage.

You also mentioned that along with PP3 and the UR's, Search 4.0 wasn't auto installing. That is likely the culprit.

IMSMC, the installer had to drop that in before the tool would recognize that pp3 was missing. And of course since PP3 is a pre-requisite for UR1, and UR1 is a pre-requisite for UR2 , the tool wont auto install them with PP3 missing.

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I had another chance to try the updater. But the results were the same - after letting it run 3 times and seeing the message "nothing left to install" in the log, I was still sitting at PP2. So definitely something wrong there.
When the v1 update tool was being developed back a few years ago, the test installs (at least the ones I did) were on clients that used either xp or w7. With both of those OS now put out to pasture, I'll have to try a clean install using a w10 client.

Maybe that will help to duplicate your issue. But I think it's more related to the below since the update installer doesn't even become part of the equation until the OS is already living on server storage.

You also mentioned that along with PP3 and the UR's, Search 4.0 wasn't auto installing. That is likely the culprit.

IMSMC, the installer had to drop that in before the tool would recognize that pp3 was missing. And of course since PP3 is a pre-requisite for UR1, and UR1 is a pre-requisite for UR2 , the tool wont auto install them with PP3 missing.


Yeah, to your point, I doubt the OS version matters as updater script runs on home server machine post-install. However, it probably explains our differing experiences with offline vs online for the recovery/reset processes. Something you might look for if you test on later OS'.

Just to clarify, I didn't say Search 4.0 wasn't installing. Rather, I simply inferred that maybe Search was missing because you referenced it in the same post as where you pointed to the PP3 links on the wsus site. But you could be onto something regarding the sequence.

I'm attaching my last log file (after reset/clean install). I removed my Server name - don't think there's anything else in there that's sensitive.


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Please pick up the troubleshooting here so it can be seen by other WSUS forum members: https://forums.wsusoffline.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=8190&p=31404#p31404

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