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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:51 pm 
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I have a tablet PC (HP TX2525nr) that is running Vista Ultimate 64bit. The Windows 7 Home Premium disc has both the 32 and 64 bit on it, but I was thinking of just loading the 32 bit version on it. Is there any reason I can't do it, or is there any reason I SHOULDN'T do it?!

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At the end of the day, the two biggest (logical) reasons to go 64-bit are if you have to use a program that is 64-bit only (unlikely with today's desktop programs) OR you need/want to use more than 3GB of RAM

Beyond that, it's easier to use 32-bit if it works well enough for you. There are more drivers, apps, etc. and they're usually better tested than their 64-bit cousins.

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[EDIT] I also forgot to add that, specific to WHS, I've had some problems when using 64-bit operating systems and WHS. Specifically, the backups have not always properly mounted when I've been trying to restore something in 64-bit Windows. Mounting the exact same backup in 32-bit XP worked fine. Could be Vista, could be 64-bit. I chose to blame 64-bit :)[/EDIT]

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Sean,

My two HTPCs were Vista x64. The moment I got W7 I moved them over to W7 x32. Since these two HTPCs were being used mainly for video playback I found zero reason that x64 would serve any benefit and all it did was add headaches trying to sort out codec/filters, etc...

Unless you are doing something where you think you will require or benefit from more the 4GB RAM I just don't see the point of x64 until it becomes more widely adopted

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Thanks guys!!

I don't see any reason to have x64 on my laptop. It came with it, but don't see a need for the headache. It has 3GB RAM, and I when I was trying Win 7 RC, it seemed to work great in 32bit form!!

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My only issue with 64-bit is finding working drivers for devices.


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Make sure to extend your warranty on the TX2...they are a bit problematic. Also, if you still have warranty left with HP, they don't support your unit with a non OEM OS installed just FYI

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I am still on Win XP Pro 64bit and love it. I run without a virus scanner and always have, would not think of doing that on 32 bit.
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The 64 bit vista and win7 are different cridders. Not as virus proof.

The main thing is like others have said,
If you need more then 3.5 +or- ram. 64 bit
If you can find all the drivers and programs that will work 64 bit is the future.

If not, then nothing wrong with 32 bit for now.

Just wait till your asking 64 bit or 128 bit :beerme:

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Assuming you have all the drivers, I can't see any reason not to go 64 bit. I have some pretty old machines and I have had no problems with drivers but I still use the 32bit version of IE because some addins you need(like Adobe Flash) are not yet available in 64 bit. MS gives both 32 bit and 64 bit IE on a 64 bit install. So, if the machine will handle it, I go 64 bit because I won't have to re-install if I ever need the 64 bit operating system down the road. It runs all my 32 bit apps fine.

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No issues here with drivers or anything else with my seven machines(two Netbooks, two laptops, three desktops) running Win7 64bit.

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erail wrote:
Assuming you have all the drivers, I can't see any reason not to go 64 bit. I have some pretty old machines and I have had no problems with drivers but I still use the 32bit version of IE because some addins you need(like Adobe Flash) are not yet available in 64 bit. MS gives both 32 bit and 64 bit IE on a 64 bit install. So, if the machine will handle it, I go 64 bit because I won't have to re-install if I ever need the 64 bit operating system down the road. It runs all my 32 bit apps fine.


I think it is not so much the drivers per se as it is codecs/filters which can get very tricky when dealing with x64. For a pure HTPC I see no benefit from x64 yet the potential for more headaches.

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Agreed, 32 bit for now is the foolproof way to go. Vista and Now Win7 64 bit do not give you the (somewhat Virus proofness) that Win xp 64 bit is still giving me. And win xp 64 bit is getting way long in the tooth.
Enjoy 32 bit as long as it lasts.

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Heh, old news. There USED to be an issue with 64 bit drivers when Vista 64 bit came out. NO LONGER. There is not a single thing not working that I have found with a a dozen loads of Win7 64bit on different machines. Your laptop was DESIGNED for 64 bit, use it! If nothing else, the memory limitations of 32 bit are severe. 64 bit all the way.

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John Pombrio wrote:
Heh, old news. There USED to be an issue with 64 bit drivers when Vista 64 bit came out. NO LONGER. There is not a single thing not working that I have found with a a dozen loads of Win7 64bit on different machines. Your laptop was DESIGNED for 64 bit, use it! If nothing else, the memory limitations of 32 bit are severe. 64 bit all the way.


64 bit is a bit more of a challenge when it comes to HTPCs. There is zero benefit to x64 on an HTPC, so in that case I would recommend just sticking with x32

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HTPC is a computer first, a media center second and Win7 64 bit certainly does make a big difference! Running Win7 and having 4GB of memory is pretty much the basic need for any computer these days. With 4GB of memory, you immediately lose a chunk of it when running Win7 32 bit (which only allows 3.2GB of memory mapped). Make that 6GB or 8GB of memory, and the result is the same, 3.2GB. Another thing that happens with 32 bit machines is that file transfers are much slower, noticeable to people slower. Those two things alone makes 64 bit Win7 a no brainer.

I have two HTPCs, both running Win7 64bit. There is no reason not to, and plenty of reasons to use it. Video encodes much faster, programs that take advantage of 64Bit run much faster, and 32 programs run the same speed. I cannot think of a single reason NOT to use 64bit.

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John Pombrio wrote:
HTPC is a computer first, a media center second and Win7 64 bit certainly does make a big difference! Running Win7 and having 4GB of memory is pretty much the basic need for any computer these days. With 4GB of memory, you immediately lose a chunk of it when running Win7 32 bit (which only allows 3.2GB of memory mapped). Make that 6GB or 8GB of memory, and the result is the same, 3.2GB. Another thing that happens with 32 bit machines is that file transfers are much slower, noticeable to people slower. Those two things alone makes 64 bit Win7 a no brainer.

I have two HTPCs, both running Win7 64bit. There is no reason not to, and plenty of reasons to use it. Video encodes much faster, programs that take advantage of 64Bit run much faster, and 32 programs run the same speed. I cannot think of a single reason NOT to use 64bit.


Depends on how you use your HTPC. For example I use my HTPCs purely for video playback (no encoding or CPU intensive tasks, I leave that or my desktop). In a case like this there is zero benefit to x64 over x32 (I have run both on an HTPC). However, I have seen many cases where using x64 has caused problems/confusion with others running an HTPC for the same purpose as myself (mixing up x64 and x32 applications/codesc, directory and filter registration, etc...). Once we get to the point where there is only x64 (so there is no more mishmash of x32 and x64 in one O/S) then I think everything will be much simpler.

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