T-Bone wrote:
Thanks for the info. Im trying to find parts for my network right now. Im not sure who makes the best patch panels. With all the runs and ability to install camera's Looks like Ill need a 48 and a 24. I have about 55 cables going in. A friend of mine said patch panel is a patch panel. I just want something good that wont be a bottle neck.
Yes, for the most part and especially at home and with the short run you have, patch panels are patch panels. Holy cow - others recommending Leviton for home? I mean it's good stuff but talk about overkill
First, great site:
http://smallnetbuilder.com Lots of good info there.
For general parts for your system I would use Monoprice. I have lots of stuff from them and it works great.
Patch panels:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/produ ... 1&format=2Since you are talking about 55 (!!) cables that's a 96 port panel. It's about $10 more for cat6 so you might as well. Parts are going to be the least cost - labor is huge, even if you do it yourself (which you should, it's ridiculously easy to run and terminate cable)
4 U wall bracket to mount that panel to the wall:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/produ ... 1&format=2 If you want to get a coax panel and wall mount it, spring for the 7U panel (the 96 port panel is 4 U and the coax panel would be 1 U so you need 5 U - 7 U gives you some room to grow).
Wall Plates:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/subde ... p_id=10517Jacks to go into the wall plates:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/subde ... p_id=10513In most parts of the country low voltage like network cable does not have to be in a box, so these wall brackets are a great way to mount a data wall plate to the sheetrock - just cut the right sized hole in your sheetrock, put the bracket in, pull the cable through, punch down to the jacks, snap the jacks into the wall plate, attach the wall plate to the bracket in the wall:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/subde ... 25#1042507 They simply grip the sheetrock holding the bracket into place, the wall plate screws into the bracket. Not appropriate for locations with 110V power!
Bulk cable:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/subde ... p_id=10234Punchdown tool to punch the cable down to your patch panel at one end, and your wall jacks at the other end:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/produ ... 1&format=2Patch cables to go from the patch panel to your switch, and you'll also need patch cables to go from the wall to your devices on the other end:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/subde ... p_id=10232 So many colors to pick from!
Installing is pretty easy once you get the cable pulled from your central location of your patch panel to each drop. Assemble the drop locations with the instructions I provided above. For where your patch panel will be located, I highly recommend getting a scrap piece of at least half inch plywood, although 3/4 is better, and give yourself about three times the amount of space you think you will need - if you can swing it. Ideally your cable will be coming down from the attic in to the wall cavity, and then out through a hole in the sheetrock where your patch panel will go. Cut a hole in the back of the plywood in the right spot so the cables coming out the wall can get through the hole after the plywood is mounted, then mount the plywood to the wall. Mount the wall bracket for your patch panel to the plywood and punch down all your cables to the patch panel. Poke the extra cable back into the wall and that's pretty much it.
Now a couple of tips. First, punching down the jacks and the punchdown panel is not that hard. It's color coded! Just pick one of the standards (568A or 568B) and stick with it. If you can color by numbers you can punch down a network cable. I think 568B is the more common of the two and what I have used in the past. Yes, the punch down tool will befuddle you the first couple of times you use it - but it's pretty straightforward once you actually do it a few times and stop over-analyzing it

If not there are tutorials on smallnetbuilder and youtube that show you exactly what to do. Second, leave extra cable in the walls! The last commercial building I worked in, the installer left an extra three feet or so in the wall behind each drop. That is, the cable came down from the ceiling, went a good 1.5 to 2 feet beyond the box, then looped back up to the box. That extra cable gives you slack that makes punching down the jacks easier, and lets you change your wiring configuration a few times before running out of cable in the wall. It get's harder near the patch panel, especially if you are anticipating 56 cables! So, split the bundle between two stud bays. Put half on one side of a 2x4 then the other half on the other side of a 2x4 - hopefully you have two cavities that don't have electrical in them. Again, let the cable come down from the attic, pass up where your hole is and inside the wall loop back up to your hole and then out to the patch panel. Makes punching down loads easier too!
Oh yeah, don't run data cable parallel to electrical cable. It causes interference and can induce enough current to cause hardware failure if you run it parallel long enough. It's always best to cross electrical perpendicular to power for the least amount of interference. Fluorescent ceiling lights and their ballasts should be given a wide birth and avoided at all costs - keeping at least a couple of feet away should be sufficient.
Good luck! I'm pulling about 24 cables in some conduit (thank goodness I had the sense to add it when the house was being built!) from my basement to my attic to hit all my bedrooms probably tomorrow after the temperature dives here. I've estimated out the length of each run and have all of them cut so I can make one pull as my conduit is going to be pretty full. Even so I'm still pulling a pice of nylon pull twine with the cable to leave in the conduit in case I attempt to stuff more into it

I already have 12 drops on my first floor that came up through my basement into each location. My patch panels are under the stairs in my basement.
My switch came with "ears" to mount to a rack - most switches (not all so check if you can) support rotating the ears 90 degrees so you can wall mount the switch - it's trivial to mount to plywood if you followed my advice and put the plywood on the wall

The cable modem from my cable company had screw holes on the bottom so it was easy to mount it to the wall/plywood as well - and my router was an embedded PC that was wall mountable. I upgraded it to an HP Microserver I got on sale, so I picked up some shelf brackets from the local hardware store, again had a piece of scrap plywood to make a shelf on top of the brackets to support my router. I need two more brackets to use with another piece of scrap I have to make a second shelf for my WHS to sit on.
If you have cats or earthquakes

these guys are awesome:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/produ ... 1&format=2 They have screw holes - screw 'em into your plywood and then use cable ties to secure the stuff on the shelves to the wall so it can't slide off. Makes a very neat and secure installation. I set up a server for my vet and I took advantage of the plywood on the wall in her office the alarm guys put up (they covered the whole wall and only used 1/3 of it - sweet!) to put a shelf and then secure the devices on the shelf as she does have roaming cats from time to time!
If you are OCD like me, you'll probably want to wall mount your outlet strip and then use those cable tie mounts to secure all the power cabling to the wall. Don't go nuts with the network cabling - you don't want sharp right angle corners - gentle bends. I generally don't like to strap the network cabling down. I do have fun with color coding - a red patch cord goes from my cable modem to the WAN port on my router/firewall, and green from the LAN port on my router/firewall to my switch. Orange to the server, and grey from the switch to the patch panels (I have two 12 port wall mounts, but now wish I would have gone with what I recommended for you!)
Also notice that Monoprice has coax cable and ends - again, the first couple of times you crimp a connector onto coax will be wierd but it gets easier pretty quickly. They have wall mountable panels for coax too, although I just bring it out of the wall and into a splitter mounted to - you guessed it - the plywood. Notice a theme with the plywood? It's your canvas for your cabling
Then again if none of your runs are over 100 feet (remember, you have to go up the wall, add an extra two feet for bends, from top of wall to attic, etc. then over to your drop location, another couple of feet plus probably six feet down to the wall outlet) you can just pull their pre-made coax cable and screw the end into the back of the keystoene jack at the wall drop and then directly into your splitter at your central location. If you have extra cable that won't fit in the wall, neatly coil the extra in the attic (just not near power cable!). I had the coax and crimp tools so I'm pulling raw cable, but if you are only talking a handfull of runs under 100 feet total just get the pre-made cables and move on.
For each of my bedrooms I'm dropping a coax for TV/Cable and two networks (for a Tivo and Game console or box like AppleTV/Roku). I'm using a three hole wall plate with two data and one coax of the keystone jacks. In my office upstairs I have a wallplate with four drops on one wall for my computers, Tivo and a printer as well as a coax. Since they don't make a five hole plate I just got a six and plugged one of the holes with a blank. On the other side of that wall is my master bedroom with a two network/coax drop - convenient! The other side of the upstairs office has a wall plate with two drops for another printer I have and future expansion as I also dropped a coax there too in case I wish to move the TV to a different wall.
Of you do it all yourself, you could easily do the network for under $1000 and that would include a switch or two. BTW - a fantastic switch for home since it has very good performance and agressive power savings:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6833156294 On sale for $99 - a great deal! Wall wart free which is another bonus.
As for home automation - forget Creston. Again, good stuff but ridiculously expensive for average home use. Zwave is a step up from X10 and seems to be picking up steam. The Schlage locks that they want to charge you $10 a month to access over the Internet can be operated for free if you have a Zwave controller and some home automation software. Theres a ton of programs out there and most will run on your windows home server just fine. I'm running HomeSeer on my Windows Home Server with a USB two port serial port - one for the Zwave controller and the other serial port for my alarm system (haven't finished that project yet - d'oh!) There are outlets, switches and plug-in modules for lamps and other stuff. You want to start sinking money, get into home automation
http://homeseer.com/ SmartHouse can be good, but they can also be expensive. And they push Insteon which was their answer to X10. What I like about Zwave is every device is two way, and they have radios as well as use powerline communication. The network is self forming and self repairing, and Zwave devices will repeat for other zwave devices that are out of range of your master zwave controller. The practical upshot - setting up a Zwave network is literally plug and play/set it and forget it. Unlike X10 where sometimes only half the devices would work unless the dryer was on and other weirdness. If you want to know why the dryer was significant I can explain....
There might be other home automation software now, and it may be cheaper - but check out the user base and support forums for it. One of the big reasons I picked HomeSeer was they have a VERY active and fanatical userbase where getting tech support - like in this forum - is easy and plentiful. That level of support can be worth more than the cost of the software over time...