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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:22 pm 
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Morning All,

Please could you have a quick look at my shopping list, I have decided to go for a n 8 disk WHS, as it is smaller and will be a good start to building as this is my first, can you let me know if there are any particular areas of concern please, before I order, I have to order here for the international shipping to Dubai.

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Welcome watteau :)

I certainly don't mean to offend you and hope you take my thoughts in the spirit of trying to help you. I would suggest:

1. Define and state your intended use of WHS today and growth plans.

2. Then spend a few hours reading a lot of great threads in this Forum about systems that have been built. All ranges of systems and fantastic advice from experts with all the gory details.

Having said this. Why the need for RAID? I'm not a huge fan of trying to use RAID as a back up solution. Also, in WHS, all your shares are automatically duplicated and WHS handles the dirty work in balancing out your "storage pool" and keeping tack of where the files are in a DB.

Hope I helped a little. Good luck.


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I have an EX 485, and I want to double the storage and I want something small, I don't want USB as it slows down streaming of MKV's, so this seemed a good option, I just want to know if anyone knows of any limitations or problems with my chosen hardware.

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I question the RAID approach as well -- except for a mirror of the System Disk. (We have had many discussions of the pros/cons of RAID so I recommend using search for details.)

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He's not doing raid. He's ordering a 3 bay hotswap drive cage. Istar just calls it a raid cage.


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(Doggone it.... I wwas trying to go a whole day without learning anything!)

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Not sure what you have planned for a mobo, but I just built a WHS with the same processor, and it performs quite nicely. I used a gigabyte mobo with 8 sata ports on board, so no add-on sata adapter was necessary (at least not yet).

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Yep, I'm just using those cages as they look so good, I have also had a windfall, I found a coolermaster sniper Black Mesh with Five 5.25 bays, and 5 internal 3.5 and HUGE silent cooling, all black on our local ebay equivalent souq.com here in Dubai, so that saved me nearly 200 USD in shipping, so I'm now copying Northstar MOBO and processor and a Shawshank special on the SAS/SATA card. I'm going to put 4GB ram, as it is only 100 usd, so the revised shopping list is as follows, PSU is enermax 720w, 13 disks eventually do you think this is enough. Thanks for your comments and help so far, I'm getting really excited now. I have got butterflies though as I am running all Mac's apart from my wife on her laptop, I just hope I can do all the slipstreaming for the drivers to a usb and a headless install all from Bootcamp or parallels.

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Well that list went out of the window, getting things shipped to Dubai is a nightmare, so I went to our computer souq, and I found a great deal on a gigabyte GA-G45M-DS2H http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/Moth ... #anchor_os , and I got 4GB RAM and a E7500 processor, all for 1100 AED which is 300 USD, I also picked up a huge power supply. I contacted xclio who make some good backplanes, and they agreed to ship direct from Taiwan at Newegg prices, so very chuffed, I had to order the rest from Amazon for delivery to a US address then I will forward it all to Dubai, but this weekend is creating the slipstreamed USB installation.

I did have a question though, do I need to instal AHCI?

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watteau wrote:
I did have a question though, do I need to instal AHCI?


You only need AHCI if you want the drives connected to the mobo sata ports to be hot swap

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Well no need for that then, I can live with having to shut down, how does this affect adding and removing drives from the pool though, you just shut down and restart once it says drive can be removed? What about adding drives must you add them whilst the machine is switched off?

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Well no need for that then, I can live with having to shut down, how does this affect adding and removing drives from the pool though, you just shut down and restart once it says drive can be removed? What about adding drives must you add them whilst the machine is switched off?


I would remove the old drive, shut down, restart the server, and then add the new drive

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Well no need for that then, I can live with having to shut down, how does this affect adding and removing drives from the pool though, you just shut down and restart once it says drive can be removed? What about adding drives must you add them whilst the machine is switched off?


Actually, without hot swap capability, in order to remove drives and add new drives, you need to remove the old drive via server storage tab. After the drive is removed, you shut down the server, take out the old drive, put in a new drive and restart the server. After the server is restarted, you add the new drive via the server storage tab.


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Well no need for that then, I can live with having to shut down, how does this affect adding and removing drives from the pool though, you just shut down and restart once it says drive can be removed? What about adding drives must you add them whilst the machine is switched off?


Actually, without hot swap capability, in order to remove drives and add new drives, you need to remove the old drive via server storage tab. After the drive is removed, you shut down the server, take out the old drive, put in a new drive and restart the server. After the server is restarted, you add the new drive via the server storage tab.


Correct, sorry, when I said remove old drive I was assuming that it had already been removed via the server storage tab, thanks for clarifying.

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