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Author:  DataGeek [ Sat Jun 23, 2018 3:45 pm ]
Post subject:  SMB1 upgrade to SMB2?
Hi Folks.. LIke a bad penny, Have to come back to the womb for help on a new MSS issue.. Did a few searches here and and could not find any hits? (seems like one search got me into an external advertisement? - we'll tackle that later), Here's the story, and the ask!... Was on holiday for a few weeks, got back yesterday and powered on (no issues) my V1 MSS, opened a word doc and tried to save it to my public folder, and got a microsoft (win10) error message that said my attached drive (to mss) was unreliable running SMB1 and needs to be upgraded to SMB2 or later. Tried to upload pictures as well with same error message result, I can't get past this error. Has anyone else seen this error? Am I just behind the times? I posted pix of message below, HELP!

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Author:  DataGeek [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:33 am ]
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Here is link to Microsoft article:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/hel ... in-windows
Author:  DataGeek [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:57 am ]
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Another good article on this issue: https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/fil ... sing-smb1/
Author:  DataGeek [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:08 am ]
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Update, tried another win10 desktop, Could access Server fine!

Both Win10 machines running Ver 1803, build 17134.112, one Acer Predator works properly, was a clean win10 load (assume) purchased with Win10 loaded, Asus (not working) is a win7 upgraded machine using Msoft upgrade tool. I also have an unsigned Cert Camera capture card in it that (assume) forces OS to run in "Test mode" (see on lower right corner of desktop a "Watermark" showing:

Test Mode
Windows 10 Home
Build 17134 .rs4_release.180410-1804

This Asus system was running fine (access to MSS ok) on 5/25/18, now have this error/access condition upon return from Vacation 6/22/18 and powering on MSS.

Checking windows updates shows both systems receiving 1803 Cum update (KB4284835) mid June. Both systems are running auto windows update.

Any ideas?
Author:  DataGeek [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: SMB1 upgrade to SMB2?
This Asus client does not have SMBv1.0 enabled in windows features.

Can't find the same controls in WHSV1 (advanced admin)…?

Most sites I have read state that I cannot upgrade WHSv1 above SMBV1. That I would need to upgrade the server OS to something higher that integrates better SMB versions. What might be good upgrade target for WHSV1?

After reading articles about security risks of SMB1, it seems? that WHSV1 is not where I need to be... Thoughts?
Author:  DataGeek [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:49 am ]
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Tried to map a new network connection to MSS, got same SMB error....
Author:  DataGeek [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:11 pm ]
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ok, found this in the detailed "whats included in this KB" I mentioned above: (sorry, it does not format well)

Known issues in this update

Some users running Windows 10 version 1803 may receive an error "An invalid argument was supplied" when accessing files or running programs from a shared folder using the SMBv1 protocol.

Symptom Workaround:

Enable SMBv2 or SMBv3 on both the SMB server and the SMB client, as described in KB2696547.
Microsoft is working on a resolution that will be available later in June.

here is link to that KB Detail:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/hel ... -kb4284835
Author:  DataGeek [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 1:13 pm ]
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Uninstalled the subject KB and the SMB problem did NOT go away... AARRGGHH
Author:  DataGeek [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:45 pm ]
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Unable right now to roll back off of 1803.... I uninstalled all other 1803 os updates with no Joy...
Author:  Ruben Rocha [ Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:25 am ]
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I just looked at my desktop which I installed the os on.
win10 home 64bit. About 10 months ago

It only has smb1.0 installed.

And of course I don't have the issue.
And I have updates turned on.
Author:  DataGeek [ Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: SMB1 upgrade to SMB2?
Thanx Ruben, yes why one fails and one works is a conundrum...

I found this additional message that speaks to WHSV1, it includes some additional workarounds... trying now....
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/win ... 5c5a52489f
Author:  DataGeek [ Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:12 am ]
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Following the link above recommendation to turn SMB1 on via "Windows Features" solved my current issue. But it seems more like a temporary workaround.

Is a 2008R2 upgrade of my WHSV1 a proper next step to get to SMB2? Does my EX495 have the power to do that (I have made no hardware upgrades to it).
Author:  DataGeek [ Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:25 am ]
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Author:  lioninstreet [ Mon Jun 25, 2018 4:48 pm ]
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I just today worked thru this issue myself. Funny to see it posting here so quickly. Windows 10 fall update 1709 appears to have SMB1 enabled by default, but the Spring 2018 (1803 update on a new terminal I'm just now replacing did not. So you are correct that you have to go into windows features to enable it. But I am sure the time is coming when it will no longer be included in Microsoft desktop software.

I also read something from Microsoft on it that if you do a fresh install of 1803 and do not use SMB1 within 15 (45?) days of activation it will uninstall (or maybe it was deactivate) itself.

As far as updating WHS V1 to the newer protocol, There might be a server 2003 update for it that you could manually push. If you can find it please post.

As to WHS11, my guess is it already runs v2.0 since it is based on server 2008.
Author:  DataGeek [ Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:51 pm ]
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Thanx Lion, good info, I'll keep looking.. But not hopeful about WHSV1 smb fix... I would feel better being off SMB1...

Don't I have to upgrade WHSV1to WHS2008 first, then can upgrade to 2011?

Is there a Upgrade instruction thread here somewhere? I looked thru software and did not see?
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