Review: Xtreamer Pro

by Damian on March 3, 2011 · 34 comments

in Reviews

About a year and a half ago I posted an unboxing of the Xtreamer Media Player. This was supposed to be followed up with a review which…um…. never quite happened (and thankfully no one ever called me out on :-) ). Since then my Xtreamer has gone through a bit of a change. The original one that I had worked for a while, but I encountered issues with the fan and then eventually it just bricked on me. I was able to get it replaced, and for a small upgrade fee was able to instead switch to the Xtreamer Pro. Out of all the players on the market none I have found elicits quite the response from the community as does the Xtreamer (in both a positive and negative manner). I will discuss this in more detail towards the end of the writeup, but first let’s get to the fun.

Specifications:

Price:

USD 199.99

Connectivity
WIFI
UPnP SSDP
UPnP AV
NTFS
NFS
eSATA
USB 2.0 (Salve + Host)

Storage Capacity
2X SATA 2 3.5″ HDD ( unit can be used  with one hard disk only or even without  an HDD)
Up to total of 4 TB internally plus external storage devices via two USB 2.0 ports

  • eSATA up to 3.0Gbps (300MB/s)
  • USB 2.0 up to 480Mbps (60MB/s)

Web services
Video : YouTube, Picasa, Yahoo Video, CNN, NBC Today, CBS Face the Nation and more
Audio : Live365 Radio, iPodcast, Radiobox, ABC News, BBC Podcast, CNN News , Indiefeed, Jamendo
Photo : Picasaweb
RSS feed : Yahoo! Weather, Yahoo! News, Yahoo! Xchange, MSNBC News and more
Supports On2Media VP6 Codec h.264 Streaming FLV

Media files supported
Video containers:
MPEG1/2/4 Elementary (M1V, M2V, M4V)
MPEG1/2 PS (M2P, MPG)
MPEG2 Transport Stream (TS, TP, TRP, M2T, M2TS, MTS)
VOB
AVI, ASF, WMV
Matroska (MKV) (H.264)
AVC HD
MOV (H.264), MP4, RMP4
FLV - Flash Video
VP6 Codec h.264 Streaming FLV
Video codecs:
Audio containers:
AAC, M4A
MPEG audio (MP1, MP2, MP3, MPA)
WAV
WMA
FLAC
OGG
RMP4
FLC
PCM
PLSX

Audio codecs:
Audio Down Mix : DTS, DTS-HD MA, DTS-HD HR
Audio Passthrough 5.1 CH : DTS, DTS-HD MA, DTS-HD HR 5.1 CH -
Audio Passthrough 7.1CH – Dolby TrueHD , DTS-HD MA, Dolby Digital Plus
Photo formats : JPEG, BMP, PNG, GIF, HD JPEG
Other formats:  ISO, IFO, FLV, RM, RA, RAM
Subtitle formats : SRT, SMI, SUB, SSA, IDX
Streaming formats : RTSP, FLV


Media Support

BluRay BD Iso with Simple Navigation
Commercial DVD with menus

Artistic GUI
HD menu with Artistic (user defined) BG
Search, Indexing and Thumbnail Based Navigation (MovieJukeBox) will be introduced in later FW update free of charge.

Chipset
Realtek 1283X
JM20336 – Dedicated Storage Controller

Memory
256MB DDR 2 SDRAM, 256MB Flash

Audio/Video outputs
HDMI v1.3a (up to 1080p)
Composite Video
Stereo Analog Audio
S/PDIF Optical Digital Audio

Interface
1x USB 2.0 slave
2x USB 2.0 host
Internal SATA 2
eSATA Front

Network
Ethernet 10/100 RJ-45
WIFI USB Antenna 802.11n (optional at additional Cost)

Free DDnS Name
Yourname.myxtreamer.net

Multilingual On Screen Display , Subtitles & GUI
Arabic, Thai, Hebrew,Vietnamese, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Spanish, German, Italian, Turkish, Greek , Dutch, French, Latvian, Russian, Croatian, Portugese, Swedish, Polish, Romanian, Ukrainian, English, Magyar, Czech, Slovenian, Finish, Danish, UTF-8

Integrated iPhone RemoteControl
Your device IP/iphone

Power
12V DC, 3A & 5V DC, 4.5A
• universal auto-switching (UL, cUL, CE, TUV approved)
• Protection: OCP, OVP, SCP

Dimension
175mm(W) x 120mm(D) x 82mm(H)

Weight
1Kg

Hardware:

The Xtreamer Pro comes in a colorful package, although I am still trying to come to grips with how the Skateboarder ties in to the product :-) .

When unpacked the Xtreamer Pro comes with a bevy of cables and accessories, which includes an HDMI cable, e-SATA cable, composite cables, e-SATA connector for a PC, USB extender for a wireless dongle, and a remote.

Unfortunately it appears I erased the pictures I took of the front and back, so instead I will just show the stock pictures from Xtreamer’s website. The front of the unit has a cover that showcases varies LEDs as well as a USB 2.0 and e-SATA connector. Removing the cover gives you access to 2 x 3.5in hard drive slots

At the rear of the Pro is a HDD switch (when you are copying data to the Xtreamer you need to select which hard drive is to be used), fan, composite output, Optical, HDMI 1.3a, 10/100 LAN, USB 2.0, USB slave, and power connector.

You may think that since the Pro can hold 2 x 3.5in it must be huge. I must say I was very surprised at how compact it was, close in size to a bushel of bananas

Overall the Pro feels solid and compact. Once in operation I found the fan to be quiet. However, when first powering up the Pro the fan makes a high pitched whine, so hopefully this is not a bad sign of fan issues down the road. The Pro came with just about every cable you could need which is always welcomed. The lack of component output may be a negative for those who do not have an HDMI capable TV/Receiver or no free HDMI slots. The fact that you have to manually switch to the specific hard drive you want to copy to is a bit of an inconvenience, but when it comes time for playback you will have access to both drives simultaneously.

UI Appearance:

When you first launch the Pro you are welcomed by a sharp looking main menu. From here you can access your Favorites, Media Library, Internet Radio, Xtreamering, File Manager, and Settings. The main menu was a big overhaul from the original main menu that came with the Xtreamer which frankly I found hideous.

Seeing the main menu there is a lot of hope that we have finally gotten away from the dull stock UIs. Unfortunately, like most other media players, the UI reverts back to a Windows Explorer type experience.Accessing your media library brings up a list of available options to choose from. If you are using 2 internal hard drives you can access both drives simultaneously via the HDD option. However, on the down side each drive appears as a separate drive in the Pro, which means you will need to know what content is on each drive ahead of time (or of course you will just have to navigate between each drive until you find the content you are looking for).

Once you go into your media the Pro has an option to display the folder art (in the case below each movie is in its own folder and has a folder.jpg file). This is a nice option as it gives a little bit more of a jukebox feel to it. This however only works if movies are stored in individual folders. If the folder is a folder rip of a DVD or BluRay when you select a pop up box will appear asking you if you want to navigate the folder or if you want to play the folder (in most cases you are going to want to play the folder which will begin playback). If you have a standalone file in the folder (such as an mkv) you still have to navigate into the folder and select the file. One other neat feature, there is a preview feature available. When you select a video file a preview clip will being to play in a small window.

The settings menu is fairly straightforward (apologies for the blurry image). The only part that I found a bit confusing are the various HDMI settings. There is an “HDMI Compatibility Set” which has 6 or 7 options to choose from. It is not clear what each option represents, which can be frustrating if you are trying to troubleshoot an issue. Also, there is a setting called “HDMI Chroma Sub Sampling”. The default setting caused everything viewed on the Pro to have a green “Hulkish” tint. Changing this setting to 4:4:4 fixed the problem for me (but once again for the average person this is a foreign setting).

One other section of interest is “Xtreamering” from the main menu. This takes you to a menu with a variety of online content as well as access to a video jukebox ( I will discuss more about shortly).

For me the UI is a bit of a mixed bag. The main menu looks great, only to be let down once you move beyond that. There are some nice touches (such as thumbnail view and preview mode) but ultimately you are still left in a file browser view. Of particular annoyance is that fact that the Xtreamer is incapable of showing the two internal hard drives as one big drive. The Xtreamering menu adds to the inconsistent experience as it go back to the original red coloring. I realize that some of the cosmetic items discussed are just that, cosmetic. However, it left me feeling as if the Pro was put together in pieces instead of one nicely integrated package.

Responsiveness:

Navigating around the UI on the Xtreamer was fairly quick with no noticeable lags. Compared to the Dune or PCH navigating through files was quicker. The remote however was another story. I found that unless I had the remote pointed directly at the player the signal would not register. Also, I was frequently hitting remote buttons two or three times before it would get actioned in the Xtreamer.

Network Performance:

This is an area that I found to be hit or miss when it came to using SMB. My previous testings with HD content streamed over SMB was not a positive one with frequent stuttering, but recent firmware updates had fixed much of the problem. On several occasions while testing playback over SMB I experienced severe stuttering (for example, while playing Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince the first two minutes played fine, but then it was followed by video stuttering and audio dropouts). Other movies I tested I did not have this problem, so it is hard to pinpoint a culprit. However, when I switched over to NFS the stuttering went away. This confirms that the issue is with the implementation of SMB on the Xtreamer (in particular because other devices such as the Dune, PCH, and Boxee Box had no issued with SMB on the same exact connection). If you plan on streaming high bitrate HD content to the Xtreamer I would definitely recommend using NFS.

Since the Pro can hold two hard drives (for up to 6TB worth of storage) it has potential be a great all in one media server/player, especially since it can be used as an SMB/NFS server. Unfortunately I didn’t get a chance to test out streaming content from the Pro to a different media player so I cannot comment on how effective it would be. I did test how well transferring files to the Pro over the network worked. Not surprisingly (since it is only 10/100), transfer speeds were rather abysmal, averaging between 4-5.5 MB/s. Since I was looking to transfer over nearly 3 TB worth of media to the internal drives this was just not going to cut it. Bypassing the network and connecting the Pro to my PC was the best option, bringing transfer speeds via USB 2.0 back in the range of 25-35 MB/s.

Audio/Video Playback:

I decided to test playback using the latest Xtreamer firmware 2.6, which can be found here. Here is a description of what I tested and the results:

  • mkv w/ chapters – (PASS)
  • mkv w/ 480p internal IDX/SUB subtitles  (PASS)
  • mkv w/ 1080p internal IDX/SUB subtitles (PASS)
  • mkv w/ internal PGS subtitles (FAIL)
  • HD Audio downmix to stereo (PASS)
  • mkv w/ forced subtitles –  (PASS)
  • mkv/(m2)ts with DTS(MA) – bitstreamed, however I did experience some audio dropouts which others have noted as well (PASS/FAIL)
  • mkv/(m2)ts with TrueHD Audio Track – bitstreamed without issue (PASS)
  • mkv w/ VC-1 encoded video – played without issue (PASS)
  • Forced Subtitles in a BluRay Structure – played without issue (PASS)
  • BluRay ISO (main movie only) – played without issue (PASS)
  • BluRay Folder (entire disc) – played movie, only main movie with no menu support (PASS)
  • DVD ISO and/or Folder Structure – played with full menus (PASS)
  • 1080p quicktime (.mov) trailer – played without issue (PASS)
  • avi/mpeg/m4v clips – played without issue (PASS)
  • mkv w/ FLACplayed w/ multi channel PCM (PASS)
  • mkv w/ header compression – played without issue (PASS)

Overall the Xtreamer Pro handled just about everything I threw at it. More impressive was that fact that it supported 1080P IDX/SUB subtitles, as well as the forced subtitle flag in an mkv. I couldn’t seem to get PGS subtitles in mkvs to work properly which is the only significant issue I can see. One other strange issue I did encounter while testing, during playback of my Back To The Future Blu-ray rip, audio would drop off inexplicably during a certain scene. To confirm that the rip itself wasn’t bad I replayed the same scene on my HTPC and Dune, and in both instances audio played as expected. After reading around it appears that there is a DTS(MA) audio dropout bug which most likely accounted for the issue I encountered.

Third Party Jukebox:

As a replacement to the stock UI there is a third party jukebox that can be accessed/launched from the Xtreamering menu. Once launched you will see a menu similar to the Pro main menu which offers you access to your Movies, Series, Pictures, Music, and Setup. At present Series (TV Shows) is a future feature. I did not get a chance to see if pictures and music were functional. To set up the jukebox you will need to go into the Setup option.

In the setup you will need to go through a few steps before scanning of the jukebox begins. The setup was fairly intuitive to follow along with.

Once the scan is in progress you should see a results summary which shows how many movies are available and how many new movies were found. One nice feature, you can then access your jukebox and manually adjust on your own personal site (i.e. http://myxtreamer/jukebox)

Once complete to access your jukebox go back to the jukebox Main Menu and select Movies. There are several different views that you can toggle through which is a nice change from the static jukeboxes (such as Zappiti, YAMJ, etc…) in other players that lock you in to one view (unless you first manually edit a properties file). Unfortunately on the internal hard drives I had a mix of TV Shows and movies, and instead of ignoring my TV shows (which the jukebox does not support yet) it added a poster for each episode (and came up with random posters), so this led to over 200 erroneous posters being added which will require manual deletion. Navigating around was not lightning fast, with the name of the movie taking a few seconds to appear after selecting, but otherwise it was manageable.

Also, one other thing worth mentioning, when the jukebox scans your library it saves the metadata/artwork to the folder where the movie file is stored. One of the files it creates is named “filename”.png (i.e A Bug’s Life 1080p BluRay.png). The issue I encountered is that this is the same naming convention used for YAMJ. What ended up happening is my YAMJ created files got overwritten by the Xtreamer files. Whilst this worked great for the Xtreamer, when I turned on my PCH the YAMJ jukebox images were all messed up (I talked about this briefly here).


There are many things to like about the jukebox. The ability to run the jukebox directly from the Pro without the need for a PC is a big plus, and you still have the flexibility to manage/edit the jukebox separately via the website. The ability to also instantaneously switch between views was a welcome change over other static jukeboxes. On the downside the jukebox still appears to be a work in progress, and lack of TV Show support is a deal breaker for me.

Online Content:

Online content is an area that is definitely growing in importance in the media player work. As you can see from the Xtreamering menu the Pro offers a variety of online content. Xtreamer Live is probably the most active project. It is community driven, and allows for a variety of content to be aggregated for playback. Installing Xtreamer Live is a simple process downloading the first time you choose Xtreamer Live from the Xtreamering menu.

Once installed, you will see a variety of online content and tools available for viewing. Navigating around was hit or miss, as some content played back whereas others I encountered errors when trying to play.

Of course, when you mention online content there are two names that always come up, Hulu and Netflix. Well, neither service is available, although there is a menu item for Netflix stating that it is “Comming” soon.

The Pro does a good job at making online content available. However, it will most likely be hit or miss if you find anything that you would actually watch, and as is the case with many of the media players out there the “big boys” are missing. Xtreamer is definitely looking to take online content to the next level with the just announced Xtreamer Prodigy, but it is not clear whether any of the advertised content will make its way over to the Pro. If online content is a top priority for you, it may make sense to wait for  the Prodigy to be released before making any decisions.

The Xtreamer Debate:

As I mentioned at the beginning of this review, just simply saying the word Xtreamer elicits a wide range of both positive and negative responses (with probably the negative camp being the most vocal). Here are a few items of “controversy” that is worth quickly highlighting as part of the Xtreamer drama:

- When the original Xtreamer was first announced one of the advertised features was full bitstream support for HD Audio. Unfortunately the Xtreamer did not deliver, but the company kept promising that the feature would be arriving any day now. At the end of the day it was discovered that there was a flaw in the Realtek chip being used, and that HD Audio support would never be available for the original Xtreamers. You can’t blame Xtreamer for a defect responsible by Realtek, however some criticized how Xtreamer handled the situation.

- When the original Xtreamer was first announced one of the big selling points was a built in movie jukebox. However, two things were quickly discovered. First, there was no jukebox for the Xtreamer, it was simply a PC application independent from the Xtreamer (so in my view this was quite deceptive advertising). Second, and a bigger issue to many, the Xtreamer jukebox they were advertising appeared to be a rip off of the popular YAMJ jukebox, used without getting permission or at a minimum acknowledging the YAMJ developers. This may explain why the original jukebox has been dropped in favor of the community driven jukebox highlighted in this review.

- There have been a lot of stories about users being banned from the Xtreamer forums simply for expressing discontent or raising issues. As a moderator over on the MediaSmartServer.net forums I can appreciate the need to keep some sort of order. I don’t know enough details about any of the bans to make a judgment call, but it doesn’t give a rosy picture looking from the outside in when you see numerous accounts of this (add to the fact that guests cannot view the forum, they must register).

At a minimum I would say that Xtreamer was probably a little too ambitious with some of their goals/marketing (which quite a few other players are guilty of as well). If they can successfully pull off their new line of players that may be the key to winning back some of the dissenters.

Final Thoughts:

At the end of the day where does this leave us? Well, I have a bit of a mixed reaction regarding my experience with the Pro. For someone who is looking for a media player that plays nearly everything and doesn’t want to mess around with networks or separate storage, the Pro is a very compelling device. I ended up giving the Pro away to my sister (part of the reason why there are a few items in this review that I am unable to go back and confirm). The last thing I wanted to do is set up some sort of network for her and end up being tech support, so the Pro seemed like the best option. I loaded a 1TB and 2TB drive and then copied all her movies/shows over. She has two young boys and now can access all their content without having to worry about discs, so for her setup the Pro has been perfect. With potential for 6TB worth of hard drive space, and a price coming in just under USD 200, the Pro meets the needs of this setup nicely.

For my setup at home HD audio support and flawless performance playing back high bitrate content over the network are two of my most important criteria. Although switching to NFS fixed streaming issues with the Pro, the audio dropouts with DTS(MA) (similar to the Boxee Box) keep the Pro from taking a spot in my setup. Of course for those who either aren’t looking to bitstream HD audio or simply want the audio downmixed to stereo this issue will not matter to you.

Like most other players on the market you just need to assess what your needs are and based on the pros/cons figure out what player best fits. Using the Pro to store large amounts of content as well as playback worked great, and even the original Xtreamer I found to be the perfect mobile jukebox. For a spot in my home setup though the Pro just falls short.

Of course in the future I hope to get my hands on an Xtreamer Prodigy and Ultra for review, so stay tuned over the coming months.

As a quick side note, I purchased the original Xtreamer and subsequently the Xtreamer Pro from Xtreamer.com. I was very happy with my dealings with them and if you are looking to purchase an Xtreamer in the U.S I would gladly recommend their service.





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Hi, my name is Damian, and I'm tech gadget addict! Although I always had some interest in technology, it wasn't until I got my EX470 and more importantly found Mediasmartserver.net, that my interest became an addiction. My goal, aside from world domination and to see the Mets/Broncos win another championship, is to set up the perfect digital home where all my media is available at the click of a button. When I am not writing for Mediasmartserver.net you can find me over at my blog at http://www.adigitalhomeblog.com or follow me on twitter


{ 32 comments }

Alex Kuretz March 3, 2011 at 8:25 am

Thanks for the review, Damian, it looks like these products are improving in usability, attractiveness, and functionality but still have a ways to go pulling everything together into a complete package.

Damian March 3, 2011 at 8:39 am

Agreed Alex, we are getting closer but not quite there yet. I would love to see all these companies reel in their “claims” until it is actually functional and working, but it is marketing and they are all guilty of it. The Xtreamer Prodigy and Ultra seem to be the most ambitious so hopefully the claims and reality meet when the product is released to the public. I do hope one day we get to the point where you can purchase a new player at release and not be forced to be a beta tester.

Brajesh March 3, 2011 at 10:26 am

Is the Ultra expected to support hd audio bitstreaming and proper 23.976fps? On paper, it looks promising as a low-cost, user-friendly, powerful HTPC capable of XBMC, Boxee, etc.

Damian March 3, 2011 at 10:37 am

Good question. For 23.976 honestly I am not sure if the Ion GPU can do properly (my gut tells me no but will try to confirm).

Supposedly the Ultra will be able to bitstream via the Realtek Audio chip. Once again though, I will believe this when I see it. I would have much preferred if they went the AMD Fusion route instead of Atom/Ion

Jon March 25, 2011 at 7:42 pm

I think by the time these things get to where we want them, they will still be way behind the curve. I want more than anything to be able to pull the trigger, but I know I will be disappointed in almost any case.

Damian March 26, 2011 at 4:42 am

Hey Jon,

I have definitely found you have to be a little pickier when it comes to choosing a player. Ultimately there is not one player that will ever quite match up with an HTPC as far as flexibility and functionality, but I guess that is to be expected. I think right now with two young boys and working so much a lot my priorities have shifted a little, I am willing to sacrifice some of the flexibility/WoW of an HTPC for reliability/piece of mind. I still have my HTPCs but I could never get them to the near 100% reliability I need for my wife/boys (PC not always waking from Sleep, Media Browser being flaky at times, etc…). At the end of the day I realize that all the extra stuff that comes with an HTPC my wife doesn’t care about, she just simply wants to be able to turn on a player, easily find a show/movie for her to watch or to put on for the boys, and have it play without issue. Since I told her to switch over to the Dune the past few month or so to see how she likes not once has she had an issue (where typically I would get a call once a week at work from her with an HTPC issue). There will always be a place for HTPCs for me, I just have to learn to tame the geek in me at times to keep the rest of the family happy. If both my boys turn out to be as big of a geek as me then my wife is in trouble :-)

Anders April 12, 2011 at 1:58 am

So is the new Prodigy supposed to be a step up from the Pro? I am considering buying the Pro or the Prodigy.
Kinda confusing, I do hope you do a solid comparison between the two, power and quality wise.

Damian April 12, 2011 at 7:38 am

I think the Prodigy and Pro are meant to be two co existing products. The Pro is more appropriate for someone who wants to maximize internal storage. The Prodigy, based on the “advertising” will have more available online content, something that it is not clear if it will also come to the Pro.

A word of caution, the Prodigy is nothing more then fancy pictures. No one has actually got their hands on one. My understanding is that the fancy UI that was shown off is most likely just some computer render and not what the actual UI looks like. I would wait until the Prodigy gets in the hands of reviewers and can be confirmed to do what it claims to do. I will do my best to get a unit so I can post a review here as well.

Kristian May 17, 2011 at 11:45 am

You say “mkv w/ 1080p internal IDX/SUB subtitles (PASS)”

I don’t understand why. My test on 1080p internal IDX/SUB subtitles fails.

Damian May 17, 2011 at 11:57 am

Not sure why. I have a few sample mkvs I created with 1080p internal SUB/IDX subtitles and I had no issues getting those to appear (unless I somehow grabbed the wrong test files?)

Kristian May 18, 2011 at 5:40 am

Hi.

I had the same problem on my PlayON!HD, so I decided to do some research. Could it be my material that was wrong?

Did some test using the resolution 720p and 1080p and none of them worked. The players show that there are subtitles to select but nothing is presented on the screen when choosing one.

I know that it had worked before so I installed all firmwares with IDX/SUB support to see which firmware I had that worked. It was a surprise to see that… none did?!? Okay… now I was very confused since I know I have been using IDX/SUB material on my players before.

So… if it wasn’t the players then maybe it was the sample compilation that was defect. The result of my tests might sound strange. I have tested this A LOT by using the same command line prompt and the same files but using different versions of mkvmerge. All my test runs shows that IDX/SUB subtitles work when i use mkvmerge version 2.9.8 but fails on versions 4.3.0 and 4.7.0 (and I have done it at least 3 times for every version!!!).

Okay, maybe I have overlooked something… but I have done the tests many times and they give the same result and as for now this picture is clear for me that mkvmerge version 2.9.8 works on IDX/SUB subtitles that need to run on the Xtreamer or PlayON!HD.

Btw. when using VLC there are no problems to see.

I find it very strange and it could be very interesting to hear from other peoples experience.

This is the MediaInfo result on a sample that works and one that doesn’t work.

IDX/SUB Works:
Writing application: mkvmerge v2.9.8 (‘C’est le bon’) built on Aug 13 2009 12:49:06
Writing library: libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1

IDX/SUB doesn’t Work
Writing application: mkvmerge v4.7.0 (‘Just Like You Imagined’) built on Apr 21 2011 01:13:14
Writing library: libebml v1.2.0 + libmatroska v1.1.0

/Kristian

Damian May 18, 2011 at 7:50 am

I don’t have the Pro in my possession currently so I can’t retest. I will ask around though to see if someone can test out

Mikael May 18, 2011 at 6:29 am

Hello!

You say that it lacks component video output, but on the picture is a yellow video component output. Am I missing something or just confused?

Damian May 18, 2011 at 7:49 am

Hello Mikael.

What you see is composite output (Red, White, Yellow). Component video output is the Red, Blue, Green output for video, alongside Red and White for the audio

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Component_video

ICE September 5, 2011 at 3:30 pm

How does it read 6TB? So the pro can read NTFS 2 X 2TB for 4TB and GPT 2 X 3TB for 6TB? Have you tested this yet?

Damian October 3, 2011 at 3:07 pm

I have not tested with any drive greater then 2TB. I would probably ask around on the Xtreamer forums. I know the upcoming players are supposed to have native support for 2TB+ drives

ICE October 3, 2011 at 3:43 pm

Damian – After I posted this comment I was able to format a 3TB drive to NTFS instead of GPT. I lost 10GB but that’s okay. This should work on the Xtreamer Pro if NTFS to get me close to 6TB. Pls let me know if anyone has tested this. I would like to know if it matters whether it has to be NTFS or GPT. Thanks M8.

Mike October 4, 2011 at 10:47 am

Hi, i bought a Xtreamer PRO today. I will test the 3TB HDD as soon as it will arrive!

John October 5, 2011 at 6:11 am

Hello Mike.
Have you checked the Xtreamer PRO with a 3TB HDD in GPT? I have checked it with a GPT partition and the Xtreamer PRO doesn’t recogize the HDD. However, if I use a MBR partition the Xtreamer PRO recognize the HDD but it only shows 2.2TB!! It’s very bad!! I thought I could get 6TB in total with two HDD, but I was wrong. How sad!

ICE October 5, 2011 at 1:03 pm

John – I really believe if you can format your 3TB’s to NTFS that it will recognize it. You will lose 10GBs. Pls try that and let us know. I’m a WD fan but I heard Seagate’s Barracuda XT is the easiest to format with DiskWizard to NTFS even with old OS’ and older MOBO’s.

JR October 5, 2011 at 1:33 pm

I have been testing the Extremer pro for a couple of days, and really disappointed. I was pretty happy with my old Xtreamer that played everything flawlessly except that it would not pass DTS audio.
The storage with 2.6 and up firmware upgrade will see the GPT drive, so I have 6TB storage now. The problem is my MKV’s with internal subtitles will not play, and my M2TS files drop a frame about every 50 seconds. None of these problems existed with my old Xtreamer. There is a 3.0 firmware upgrade in the works, but who knows when and if it will fix those problems. So it looks like I will return it even though I love the stupid thing.
Can anyone recommend another media streamer with no problems?
I only watch Blu-rays and listen to Flac files in my Home Theater.

Damian October 6, 2011 at 6:44 am

Yeah, the 3.0fw has been promised for quite some time. The Xtreamer Pro has served its purpose for providing huge storage for a family member, but honestly I would never use it as my main player.

As far as alternatives, I am a big fan of Dune and PCH. You can find my reviews here. I will also be reviewing Mede8er in the coming weeks.

Mike October 6, 2011 at 6:48 am

Sorry, my Xtreamer Pro is still on it’s way to me. Bought a used one for 80€.

leon November 8, 2011 at 11:41 am

i have a problem to play 20GB”.m2ts” file on xtreamer pro. It freeze , goes slow and there is a shifting between audio and video. whike small .m2ts files play good. could anybody advise?
thanks

Damian November 8, 2011 at 11:45 am

Have you tried playing this file on another player without issue? Are you streaming or playing from an attached drive?

Joseph December 4, 2011 at 3:11 pm

I was thinking about using the Xtreamer Pro with an external DAC. My question is this: if I use the USB output to stream audio to the DAC, is the signal ASIO-compatible?

Alifah December 11, 2011 at 7:10 pm

Hi Damian,
I’m pretty new to xtreamer..hv downloaded movie frm urgrove.com and save it to usb but cant view via xtreamer..but if i view it frm pc its ok
Pls help.

Damian December 12, 2011 at 7:33 am

Hi,

I am not familiar with urgrove. Just depends on the video/audio codecs used by urgrove and if the Xtreamer supports (sounds like it doesnt)

Alifah December 15, 2011 at 9:20 pm

Hi Damian,

Thanks for the reply..btw do u knw which web that we can download free movie without subscribing?

Miguel March 22, 2012 at 1:43 pm

Hi friends, I can’t use the usb slave port of my xtreamer and I need it. Do you know what would be the problem. I connect it through the correct usb port on the rear panel and it restart properly but no icon is showed in my pc or mac.

Regards

Brian January 13, 2013 at 8:11 pm

Hello Damien / forum,
I am a Mac user and just bought the Xtreamer Pro online and am awaiting delivery. My whole movie collection (total about 2TB) are each VOB files (usually 2 per movie) that I have consolidated after 1 to 1 ripping DVD’s over the years. Each movie I have had to keep the VOB’s divided just under 4GB bc my external HDD is formated FAT32 for past smart tv and blue ray player compatibility via usb (hence me getting this media player). Because all I have read concerns the Xtreamer Pro internal HDD’s being formatted NTFS, is my FAT32 formatted hard drive going to work in this media player? Additionally I wonder, will it work with MAC OS Journaled formatted HDD’s?

In regards to 3TB HDD’s now working with v 2.6, will a 3TB FAT32 or MAC OS Journaled formatted HDD work like any other format?

Thanks for any specific feedback…. and/or general tips or info regarding a Mac user working with this media player.

Thanks alot,
Brian

Damian January 23, 2013 at 1:17 pm

Hi Brian,

Unfortunately I have zero experience with MACs. Hopefully someone who does will catch your question and chime in.

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